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Post by davidp on Jul 13, 2012 11:25:18 GMT
Just a heads up really to anyone who didn't know but Pudding Mill Lane station closes after tonight (Friday 13th July) and won't reopen until Wednesday 12th September after the Paralympics have finished.
I can understand why it would be deemed necessary to close this station during the games since it couldn't possibly cope with the volume of traffic it may attract, but does anyone know why it needs to close 13 days in advance of the Opening Ceremony?
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Post by reganorak on Jul 13, 2012 11:33:15 GMT
I think it falls within the Olympic 'cordon' - security and all that.
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Post by aslefshrugged on Jul 13, 2012 11:35:00 GMT
Fairly obvious, so that on Monday 30 July people aren't expecting to get on and off there. You can put up as many signs as you like but I'll guarantee that no one reads them and come Monday you'd have loads of angry passengers complaining that there was no warning of this.
Or am I just being cynical.......
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Post by jjerome95 on Jul 13, 2012 15:41:10 GMT
Actually you make sense. I'm sure that if you tell people the station is closed ahead of time, you don't get all the complaints. Are they reopening on the same station or the new one?
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Post by aslefshrugged on Jul 13, 2012 17:21:15 GMT
I was joking but seriously the punters really are that stupid, so glad I'm not working stations, it's going to be hell out there......
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Post by rsdworker on Jul 13, 2012 19:09:05 GMT
they are rebuilding station - its moved from area where crossrail portals are - its was mentioned in one of thread somewhere here
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Post by Deep Level on Jul 13, 2012 20:10:28 GMT
They aren't rebuilding it just yet, this closure is simply for the Olympics and then the new station will be start to be built afterwards and then the old station demolished once finished.
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Post by snoggle on Jul 13, 2012 22:58:07 GMT
They aren't rebuilding it just yet, this closure is simply for the Olympics and then the new station will be start to be built afterwards and then the old station demolished once finished. The new station is actually under construction but the work is paused for the Games. It will be a fair number of months before the new alignment and station are ready to take trains. |
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Post by Deep Level on Jul 14, 2012 0:45:18 GMT
Anyone know if DLR have decided to use this as an excuse to double track the whole section between Bow Church and Stratford? I know they were thinking about it but not decided on.
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Post by alholmes on Jul 14, 2012 9:08:59 GMT
No - there are still no plans to double the track apart from at Pudding Mill Lane station.
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Post by crusty54 on Jul 14, 2012 9:31:22 GMT
Anyone know if DLR have decided to use this as an excuse to double track the whole section between Bow Church and Stratford? I know they were thinking about it but not decided on. not enough space on the bend between Pudding Mill Lane and Bow Church stations |
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Post by Deep Level on Jul 14, 2012 9:40:37 GMT
Well I'm sure space can be made, hence why building works take time because things have to change. If everyone just based decisions on what already exists then nothing would be built.
As far as I know the new viaduct and station will be double tracked as far as where it reaches the already existing sections on either side, this only leaves 2 quite small single track sections.
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Post by Chris M on Jul 14, 2012 13:04:24 GMT
I was certainly under the impression that Pudding Mill Lane to Stratford would be doubled as this was regarded as the biggest bottleneck on the network.
The actual bend between PML and Bow Church would be more difficult to double, but probably not physical impossible. Whether it would be economically possible or not I don't know.
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Post by alholmes on Jul 14, 2012 14:16:00 GMT
A few years ago a new apartment building was built beside and fairly close to the DLR track, between the bridges over the A12 and Fairfield Road. I wrote to the DLR at the time of the planning application, to ensure that they were aware as it would appear to rule out the possibility of widening in future. They were aware of the plans but saw no reason to object.
The plans for the new PML show the new viaduct to be double track, but, not plans exist for widening of the existing sections.
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Post by biolizard on Jul 14, 2012 15:19:53 GMT
I've no problem as such with the singled sections; being the end of the route the need for doubling isn't as critical as other, busier sections of the DLR network, though it's obviously desirable (but costly, given there's no more space on the viaduct shared with Anglia services; especially the section that travels over the A12).
This new station viaduct is double track for all what has been constructed so far, so if it stays doubled until joining the existing trackbed at either end, that'll be more double track on the station approach than at present, which would allow trains waiting to leave Pudding Mill Lane earlier and help keep to time.
At the moment a 6 minute headway is, from what I've seen, the best frequency that stays reliable; 5 min headways normally lead to waiting at Bow Church. With the rebuilt Pudding Mill Lane, depending on how far the station approach travels, a reliable 5 min service might be possible.
After the Olympic Park is built out, a higher frequency may well be needed and the track doubled as much as can be done (Bow Church curve being the obvious exclusion).
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