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Post by snoggle on May 25, 2012 12:29:04 GMT
Is there a programme underway to replace all of the old style DMIs (Dot Matrix Indicators) on the Victoria Line? I use the line rather less these days than in the past but recently noticed a display on the northbound platform at Tottenham Hale and also one "under test" on the southbound at Blackhorse Road.
I was rather surprised at how small the display boards are compared to the old wide but not tall design. Will these new displays just be at APD managed stations with the newer displays put in by Tube Lines at Green Park and Finsbury Park being kept or will all Victoria Line platforms get them?
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Post by malcolmffc on May 28, 2012 19:43:17 GMT
A new one at Vauxhall has also appeared in the last few weeks
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Post by causton on May 29, 2012 0:06:14 GMT
One at Barking - not showing anything but a piece of paper over it explaining what it is  |
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Post by goonar on Jun 8, 2012 11:28:56 GMT
I would also like to know the advantage of these new boards as 'snoggle' has mentioned above they are much smaller and harder to read than the old ones. There is one at Seven Sisters and it is being tested still it seems but it's so tiny and I struggle to read it if you're at the ends of the platform.
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Post by routemaster on Jun 9, 2012 13:27:35 GMT
I would also like to know the advantage of these new boards as 'snoggle' has mentioned above they are much smaller and harder to read than the old ones. There is one at Seven Sisters and it is being tested still it seems but it's so tiny and I struggle to read it if you're at the ends of the platform. +1 There also seems to be a great difficuly with clocks as well, there has been various attempts with new digital, LED and analogue clocks which are just visually inferior to clocks installed on the Undeground up until 20 years ago. |
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Post by jamesb on Jun 9, 2012 17:09:43 GMT
I wondered why these boards (or all the boards in general) can't stick out the wall above the track rather then above the platform.
There are so many obstructions (fire signs, way out signs, air con units, projectors) that they are obstructed.
When you look up the platform above the track, there are no obstructions in site.
It makes much more sense of them to be above the train coming into the station (as long as they can be read once the train as entered)
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Post by Fahad on Jun 16, 2012 21:36:09 GMT
Highbury and Islington southbound, "Under test" I wondered why these boards (or all the boards in general) can't stick out the wall above the track rather then above the platform. There are so many obstructions (fire signs, way out signs, air con units, projectors) that they are obstructed. When you look up the platform above the track, there are no obstructions in site. It makes much more sense of them to be above the train coming into the station (as long as they can be read once the train as entered) If they were above the train, I don't think it would be possible to read them with a train in the platform. That said, how often do you need to read a Vic line DMI? |
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Post by antje on Jun 17, 2012 3:53:06 GMT
There is one at Walthamstow but it was switched off when I last observed it. It is possible that the indicator is very new.
It is a bit like the Overground one.
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Post by londonstuff on Jun 17, 2012 8:22:55 GMT
I noticed these for the first time a few days ago at Pimlico. I've got good eyesight and they're absolutely appalling, I can't read them until I'm just a few metres away as they're *so* small and compressed. Cleverly, it's also at the other end of the platform to where people first reach the platform; I was watching and passengers' first instinct is to check the board, which they simply couldn't do. Talk about backward progress - or as Diamond Geezer said about the ones installed at Mile End a few years back as well as other locations, Installed by Crettins[/u] (some scrolling required). There's also a whole thread from here about this that I found from a couple of years ago. What is it with the contractors who install these and the management who authorise the work and sign the jobs off who don't ask themselves the most fundamental question: can people see them? I spoke to the person on the gateline about it and he gave a rye smile as if to suggest I hadn't been the first one to mention it. Perhaps someone from TfL Towers will be reading this. If they are, frankly, the people who've done this are muppets.  |
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Post by bronzeonion on Jun 17, 2012 9:22:59 GMT
Is the type you lot are talking about like the one at KXSP SSL on the northbound? Because thats fairly small
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Post by snoggle on Jun 17, 2012 16:49:16 GMT
I noticed these for the first time a few days ago at Pimlico. I've got good eyesight and they're absolutely appalling, I can't read them until I'm just a few metres away as they're *so* small and compressed. Cleverly, it's also at the other end of the platform to where people first reach the platform; I was watching and passengers' first instinct is to check the board, which they simply couldn't do. Talk about backward progress - or as Diamond Geezer said about the ones installed at Mile End a few years back as well as other locations, Installed by Crettins[/u] (some scrolling required). There's also a whole thread from here about this that I found from a couple of years ago. What is it with the contractors who install these and the management who authorise the work and sign the jobs off who don't ask themselves the most fundamental question: can people see them? I spoke to the person on the gateline about it and he gave a rye smile as if to suggest I hadn't been the first one to mention it. Perhaps someone from TfL Towers will be reading this. If they are, frankly, the people who've done this are muppets. [/quote] I think you're being unfair to the Muppets. ;D They're successful celebrities, TV and film stars and make people laugh.  My eyesight isn't quite what it was but I have no difficulty with the old DMIs. The new ones however ......  |
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Post by tubeflight on Jun 23, 2012 17:55:47 GMT
I've got good eyesight and they're absolutely appallingThe recent insistance in having DMIs display info in Sentance Case rather than CAPITALS doesn't help either, imo. I have not-very-good eyesight and now have increasing difficulty in reading the DMIs all over the system as more and more of them are converted to Sentance Case. |
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Post by vicbury on Jun 23, 2012 18:36:50 GMT
I saw the new DMIs at Vauxhall today and I agree that they are useless. Both the size of the letters and the spacing between letters is too small meaning that unless you are within a couple of metres of the sign all you can see is an orange blur! What was wrong with the new DMIs as fitted at other Victoria line stations such as Oxford Circus and Finsbury Park?
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Post by Guest on Jun 23, 2012 18:41:36 GMT
Which minority?
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Post by tubeflight on Jun 23, 2012 18:42:51 GMT
I saw the new DMIs at Vauxhall today and I agree that they are useless. Both the size of the letters and the spacing between letters is too small meaning that unless you are within a couple of metres of the sign all you can see is an orange blur! It would also help if they were actually showing updating countdown information rather than being "stuck" showing three train (or two on the northbound) details that never change (I:E; they just stay showing the same number of mins-to-arrival as various trains come and go). |
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