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Post by d7666 on May 23, 2012 19:07:17 GMT
i see today the CRT CIS screens on platforms 1-4 replaced by larger flat screens.
This evening was first time been through there this week, but I'm, sure there were still CRTs in place at least on 1&2 late last week, so I assume it was done over the weekend ?
I was wondering how long those CRTs were going to last.
My travels are generally limited to the inner zones, are there CIS CRTs anywhere else now ?
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Post by Colin on May 23, 2012 20:06:08 GMT
I know LU is a fan of acronyms, but can you please add an indication of what you're talking about in plain English please? CIS  CRT |
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Post by astock5000 on May 23, 2012 20:21:08 GMT
CRT is Cathode Ray Tube, I'm not exactly sure about what CIS means, but the post seems to be about the screens which show the next trains from each platform.
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Post by juliang on May 23, 2012 20:22:53 GMT
CIS- Customer Information Screen
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Post by d7666 on May 23, 2012 20:28:34 GMT
 too many TLA's ? CIS = customer information SYSTEM (or at least thats what CIS stands for in my work) CRT - I am a bit surprised that needed explaining, you know CRT v. TFT TV's and PC's -- Nick
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Post by kabsonline on May 23, 2012 21:11:36 GMT
I don't think there are any anywhere else on LU. I may be wrong. Why have they chosen to use these instead of replacing them with the normal dot matrix board things. Surely those would be better for the Met as you would be able to see the times of the next few trains, especially with all the branches the Met has |
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Post by causton on May 23, 2012 21:40:39 GMT
Kabs: You must not know how the Met operates  Because the Met line has Baker Street as a terminus for many trains, and has trains with different calling patterns, I believe these CIS screens are more appropriate than the bog standard ones. One screen shows all of the next trains and one per platform shows the next train on that platform which works very well and is more like a National Rail station. Pictures? Sure!  New departure screens at Baker Street by -Causton-, on Flickr  New departure screens at Baker Street by -Causton-, on Flickr |
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Post by mrfs42 on May 23, 2012 23:06:10 GMT
Is it too much to hope that the typeface is changed to something nicer than Helvetica Narrow? I suppose there's some ghastly DDA requirement - but AIUI those CIS screens are in breach of LU's own agreed signage standards. |
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Post by causton on May 23, 2012 23:42:04 GMT
I think they could at least make the station names (i.e. Harrow on the Hill and Chalfont & Latimer) correct! Then worry about the awful font |
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Post by mrfs42 on May 23, 2012 23:50:12 GMT
I think they could at least make the station names (i.e. Harrow on the Hill and Chalfont & Latimer) correct! Then worry about the awful font I did notice 'hill', but I would suggest that Chalfont&Latimer is a deliberate attempt at pseudo-grammar - either that or the person who programmed the computer does not understand the difference between the conjunction 'and' and the ampersand. In the purest [1] usage the last line of the display should read 'Chalfont & Latimer and Chesham'. [1] ..er.. I might mean 'most correct' but then again I might not.... |
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Post by causton on May 24, 2012 15:13:34 GMT
I agree, I would be happy with 'Chalfont & Latimer and Chesham'. It seems they have tried to just ignore current standards and replicate the old CIS screens, shown below: www.flickr.com/photos/jaggers/7071946513/..without any regard to how they could improve (apart from adding a clock to the corner!) |
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Post by bronzeonion on May 24, 2012 15:26:55 GMT
They are abit shoddy arnt they! But LCD colour TV screens like these are far better than dot matrix rubbish. They would look brilliant if they actually followed the LU standards, especially with New Johnston font
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Post by Guest on May 24, 2012 17:51:47 GMT
this was mentioned the other day,those dot matrix boards are no good.arriva use them on many buses and there's no comparison to a normal blind that has much more clarity.their ok at a bus stop and no more.
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Post by Alight on May 24, 2012 18:09:17 GMT
Sad news indeed! They always reminded me of teletext. For those who don't know, these were installed in the late '80s (I believe it was 1989 to be precise, but I'll double check in one of the archive London Transport annual reports).
It's funny, I was speaking to another member on here a while back who joked that he wouldn't mind having one for collection when they're finally replaced...let's hope they haven't chucked them away!
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Post by t697 on May 24, 2012 18:18:15 GMT
The CRT displays in the subway under the Met platforms and leading to the Jub & Bak escalators are still there this evening although one is failed and has been for a while.
Does seem a shame the new screens are not NJ font, when you think about how firm LU was about NJ (well, as near as poss) on the S stock Dot Matrix displays.
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