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Post by kkc35348 on May 25, 2012 20:32:17 GMT
Even the 1983 tube stock was more reliable than the current trains - do you ever recall a 1983 train breaking down so often?? - Perhaps it was a mistake in scrapping the 1983's so early on - they should have overhauled them, and ordered a 1983 batch three for the extension, then they would not have been in such a mess today!"
Perhaps it was only perceived that the 1983's were unreliable!
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Post by peddoors on May 25, 2012 21:19:29 GMT
Main line burst I heard! Many a rumors! It was not a mainline burst |
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Post by Uzair Siddiqi on May 25, 2012 22:13:13 GMT
Bit off topic, but I used the Jubilee today after a long time between Baker Street and Waterloo. The train was blistering between Baker St and Bond Street!
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Post by torquewrench on May 25, 2012 23:24:58 GMT
Main line burst I heard! Many a rumors! It was not a mainline burst If you say that, why don't you enlighten us as to what it was? |
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Post by sw206 on May 26, 2012 11:27:44 GMT
The problem with all the lines is one train issue causes a few minutes delay, which is enough to create queues of people within seconds, the strain on the remainder of the line multiplies, often leading to secondary incidents. The PEDs are a good example on the Jubilee - one PED issue now with TBTC causes more delay than it used to under the old system, because there is more interlocking between the PEDS and the signalling.
The trains are no doubt under more stress, and with more out there running, the maintenance is tight as there is virtually no spares to play with.
The Jubilee has been transformed with the new signalling overall, but it is not perfect and has bad days still. The issues of late seem to be more traditional train issues rather than signalling as such, but the two are much more integrated than before which complicates recovery procedures.
As for the Olympics, well, I think loads of things are being done, but its fingers crossed quite frankly!!
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Post by peddoors on May 26, 2012 12:30:58 GMT
It was not a mainline burst If you say that, why don't you enlighten us as to what it was? I really don't think it is my business to inform people on here what the problem was. All I will put on this website is that it was not a mainline burst. Lets face it, if it was a mainline burst then the driver would have just isolated the problem and moved the train. |
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Post by tubeman321 on May 26, 2012 12:44:03 GMT
Rule book2 was rewritten to incorporate the new process for dealing with incidents, mainly revolving around the NIRM and the SOO. Incident specific radio channels, gold control silver control, over engineered and over complicated pointlessness if you ask me. Its a case of too many cooks, n they just end of all stepping on each other toes, and the rend result is the passengers stuck on these trains have to wait even longer to get off! The jubilee line is useless, all the money they've spent on it and they still cant get it to work, it will DEFINATELY fail during the olympics, and the whole world will be laughing at us. Absolutely no excuse to leave people on there for 4 hours, i notice no1 from LU or TFL has actually explained what the problem was, all theyve said is its not good enough, which we all know.
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Post by reganorak on May 26, 2012 14:12:29 GMT
Last night just after 18.00 a traction 'earth' became apparent on the Jubilee Line which, to cut a long story short, resulted in only one train being allowed in each direction between Baker Street and Finchley Road, thereby quickly decimating the service with at least half of it cancelled mid-evening. Surprisingly (not), especially following Wednesday's debacle, there was no delay message for a long time. The problem wasn't found and fixed until just before 23.00. Does Boris know about these goings on?  Bet he thinks everything is wonderful. |
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Post by Guest on May 26, 2012 15:43:41 GMT
Apparently the Diamond Jubilee train suffered a major electrical problem according to the standard.
Can anybody justify what happened?
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Post by Guest on May 26, 2012 15:46:54 GMT
I have noticed on the Jubilee line that once the train stops it takes a good 5 seconds before the doors open I believe its to do with the accurate stop interlocking. However the likes of the victoria line the doors open practically open as soon as the train stops. Really the doors should be automatically opened at stations the train is automatic so the doors might aswell be. I am sure TBTC can do this is it is just not used yet. Although I bet drivers won't be happy though!
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Post by Guest on May 26, 2012 15:59:54 GMT
Just got a circular from ASLEF today saying that if LU go ahead with Automatic Door Opening, a dispute will commence with them...
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Post by Guest on May 26, 2012 16:26:44 GMT
Well I think Automatic train closing is dangerous but opening should be safer?
But really what's left for the driver to do apart from press the ATO start buttons and open and close the doors?
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Post by Guest on May 26, 2012 16:28:33 GMT
Although ATO has benifits of making the trains run faster and TBTC for closer together. I think its sad really how train driving in general is being taken over by computers if you look on Wiki and look at the list of ATO metros around the world there is quite a lot! It will not be long before trains go fully automated both on the tube and national rail. Whats next driverless cars?
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Post by cso on May 26, 2012 17:16:46 GMT
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Post by torquewrench on May 26, 2012 17:30:48 GMT
If you say that, why don't you enlighten us as to what it was? I really don't think it is my business to inform people on here what the problem was. All I will put on this website is that it was not a mainline burst. Lets face it, if it was a mainline burst then the driver would have just isolated the problem and moved the train. Possible but look at that FCC service that took 3 hours to get punters out of the train and on to platforms.... all because a twig managed to find its way on the pan head which caused the supply station to trip. Also general manager/driver incompetence! Driverless cars have been around for a while......... |
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