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Post by glom on Dec 29, 2011 8:22:49 GMT
Thameslink is the N-S route. Crossrail is the E-W route.
CR2 could be the NE-SW route as suggested elsewhere, maybe Woking to Stansted Airport.
Then all we need is a NW-SE route. This could be Aylesbury to Tonbridge maybe via Marylebone and London Bridge.
Presumably at some point the Thameslink franchise will be incorporated into a Crossrail system and then we'll have a nice 8 pointed star (with some branches too I guess).
But whatever happens, we mustn't let the lines be called Crossrail 1, Crossrail 2 etc. They must have names that make sense only to anoraks who understand the history. It's the London way to do things.
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Post by Tubetrain29 on Dec 29, 2011 8:55:36 GMT
I think that Crossrail is not a very good name for the line. The line is not the only railway to cross London, so why should it be called Crossrail?
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Post by norbitonflyer on Dec 29, 2011 12:20:25 GMT
"Crossrail" is no less ambiguous than Thameslink, Central, Metropolitan, Overground, First Capital Connect, C2C (capital to coast), or Silverlink.
I think of Thameslink as "Crossrail 0"
By the way, Crossrail will cross the Thames at more places than Thameslink does.
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Post by julia on Dec 29, 2011 12:37:37 GMT
As the media seem intent on attributing everything from bikes to new buses to floating airports to the mayor, I'll settle for Crossrail any day over "BorisRail". 
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Post by progressingnicely on Dec 29, 2011 17:19:27 GMT
I do hope it does become an extensive network like the RER. We could really do with all that extra capacity to relieve the overcrowding.
Naming of the lines is a minor thing in relation to getting them built. Many cities just attribute a number or letter to their lines which makes it easier for first time users or people unfamiliar with the language. However, its not the way we tend to do things here.
I think there is a chance Crossrail will become the name of the network (ie like RER, Underground) as its already a highly recognisable brand. Future lines may start off as numbers but I expect that they will end up being called something functional or after a historical figure or event.
With tfl selling naming rights for the Cable Car to Emirates, might this open the possibility that the Crossrail line may be named after a sponsor?
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Post by kkc35348 on Dec 29, 2011 18:14:33 GMT
Maiden-Field (Maindenhead to Shenfield) or Heath-Wood (Heathrow to Abbeywood) could be feasible names!!
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Post by Tubetrain29 on Dec 29, 2011 20:16:21 GMT
Crossrail is worth much more than the Emirates Sky Line. Emirates paid 36 million pounds for the sponsorship. I doubt that any company would pay hundreds of millions of pounds to sponsorship Crossrail. The other issue is that when the sponsorship ends the line's name will have to change and that may confuse tourists.
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Post by mikebuzz on Dec 29, 2011 20:35:03 GMT
In future Crossrail might be extended to a number of outer suburban branches like Henley and Braintree and destinations like Ipswich and Canterbury, becoming more like Thameslink in the process, but the two are still quite different beasts. Crossrail will most likely survive like Thameslink has.
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Post by Guest on Dec 29, 2011 20:41:59 GMT
I think that Crossrail should take over some suburban branches to help relieve or add extra services where needed.
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Post by ianvisits on Dec 30, 2011 12:57:29 GMT
I think that Crossrail should take over some suburban branches to help relieve or add extra services where needed. Why would you need a company called "Crossrail" to do that? Why can't the existing train company simply add more trains (assuming funding/demand/ect)?
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Post by Guest on Dec 30, 2011 13:28:41 GMT
Capacity constraints, in places, i.e. already running 30tph into the terminus.
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Post by glom on Jan 10, 2012 14:43:27 GMT
So not that the rebuilding of Euston is confirmed, does this mean WCML suburban services out of Euston will be moved onto Crossrail?
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Post by trt on Jan 10, 2012 14:46:43 GMT
Judging by the lines on the proposed HS2 diagram, the LOROL service will no longer run into Euston, that's for sure. It was a useful backup to the London Midland - it won't affect me so much as I can still use the Bakerloo as E&C is near my workplace, but it will affect some of the SAs I know at Euston who use the WCML to get into work.
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Post by glom on Mar 26, 2012 15:44:16 GMT
Is there any possibility of the go ahead to the Milton Keynes branch being given before the completion of the project or would this definitely wait until the current planned service has started?
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Post by mikebuzz on Mar 30, 2012 21:16:31 GMT
Is there any possibility of the go ahead to the Milton Keynes branch being given before the completion of the project or would this definitely wait until the current planned service has started? The connecting route at Old oak common might be safeguarded during the planning phase of the redevelopment of the area if there is enough interest in the branch (which will not likely go to MK any time soon).
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